I must admit that I've spent more time playing with a custom demon. I'll definitely give all other chars a try too.
The game did never crash or even slow down (i'm playin on a 8 year old laptop with a geforce 525M) , and that is really appreciable for a beta game ! 10/10 for stability !
Characters look cool and ARE UNIQUE ! A blast! Jokes here and there keep the fun atmosphere without getting too bold or smthg. Many things going unnoticed meaning they all run as intended ;)
The only really small things i've run into are about specific stuff in the controls.
1. Sometimes, it seems like if the engine keeps some "ghost" inputs in the buffer. It happens sometimes when there are many quick inputs (attack + some directions or like for instant airdash etc). When the move is finished (and I'm not holding any button anymore) the character is stuck in walking/crouching. As soon as I press a direction button, everything goes back to normal. Does not happen very often.
Looking for an opening with the light attack in a footsie situation can lead into having the "forward attack" coming out instead. And the latter is much slower.
Also, during an air combo, as my character lands, I want to make a lil step forward then Light attack (and continue the combo) , or even instant forward jump + light attack to continue with an air juggle combo. But 8/10 times the "forward attack" comes out, as if it had priority over the other inputs.
As the autocombo comes out also with the Light attack button (when mashed), that makes a lot of controls on that light attack button. Could it be possible to change the "forward attack" input ? Like with [fwd]+heavy ? It could still make sense gameplay-wise IMO.
And as I said above, outside of those specific subjects, there are so many things that go unnoticed, meaning they're OK, and that's HUGE !
Like, there are some tiny differences in assist cooldown timing which completely make sense when looking at their respective strengths and usefullness. ex.: the Jelly guy and the rockstar dragon. I'm still not convinced which assist I prefer. Both give combo extension, let you setup mixup situations etc., with some tiny differences in timings-cooldown-etc. And that shows there was a lot of work behind the curtains ! BRAVO !
Music is cool, different soundtracks depending on the dungeons. All of it is cohesive. Sounds effects are ok even they're not AAA. All of the sound stuff runs smoothly for me.
Thanks for the feedback! The game was actually developed on a 6 year old laptop, to make sure it runs well on low-end machines xD
The game has a pretty lenient input buffer, but not for directional inputs. You shouldn’t get stuck in walking/crouching, that sounds like a bug. Thanks a lot for pointing this out, I’ll try to fix it!
I will take a closer look at the forward attack, thanks for the notice! I probably won’t change the input this close to the game’s release (could result in a bunch of glitches/infinites) but might change the input priority. Have you tried using crouching light attacks instead? They usually have the same range, but don’t trigger the auto combo.
Glad you’re enjoying the customization features! The idea behind assists, badges and the Custom Demon was to give you flexibility in how you fight, since the game is half-RPG.
Thanks again for playing and the detailed feedback!
Happy to contribute ! I'm really enjoying the game and all the possible combinations.
For the fwd attack stuff, I'm trying to delay my inputs a bit, and it works better. But still there's definitely something with directions stuck in the buffer on the custom demon female character (that's the one I've been testing stuff with).
Anyway, here is a small video with a possible combo with the cust. demon girl.
Style : Agressor
Duck special : Launch blast
Air special : Air fireball (works also with air slash)
Helper (or assist) : Boss Wyrm (the rockstar dragon that fires 3 fireballs)
What I wanted to illustrate :
Crossup / not-crossup situation for the opening
Cr. medium long hit advantage that lets you combo for long enough, so the helper meter fills up for another use
Dash fwd between 2 cr. medium is a valid link in the combo
No meter use
I love those cr. medium links, still you can easily do an infinite with them as they are now. But I insist on the fact that they allow something interesting. Maybe the pushback on the cr.med could depend on the cust. demon playstyle (walk speed), so you can link only 2 cr. mediums or 3, depending on the playstyle... Like the TANK playstyle can link a bunch of cr.mediums (7 or 8), but not an inifinite.
I'm confident that you'll find the solution for this one too.
Always makes me happy seeing players discover combos like this. Thanks for the video feedback! I will definitely adjust the cr. Medium, it’s a bit busted xD I will also take another look at the input buffer.
Thanks a lot for trying out the beta! Those are some great suggestions, I'll look into them. Can you remember what triggered the speed-up on level 7? Or did it just randomly happen? Thanks!
That's awesome, thanks for experimenting with the combo system! I am working hard to release a new demo soon, which (besides more content) also makes the combo system a bit more freeform. In the old version you had to go A > B > C for a chain, now you can also go A > C for example.
Hi, just tested out stuff in training mode and the game feels good just that Satoshi needs a balance patch, his jumping heavy which goes downwards, has way too much hitstun to where you can constantly do jump forward heavy at midscreen even for an easy infinite. I think his light, medium, heavy, forward special (repeat from light) is a corner infinite but then again I can only do it for 5 reps at most. -Custom Demon and some other characters have animation bugs where characters are locked into an animation, the most obvious is holding crouch while you do crouching medium, if forward or back is held after the move ends, you will stay stuck in the last frame of the move until you let go, sliding along the ground and able to do some moves without a hitbox appearing. A similar glitch occurs also when you use an air attack and then cancel into a special on the ground instantly, doing the move but still in the air move animation. -Custom demon ice ball and launcher special create an easy infinite, lauch opponent, do ice ball to catch them in air, then repeat forever, this one is even easier than the Satoshi infinite Really love what you're doing and will continue to report bugs and inifinites as I see them
Thanks a lot for covering the game! Seriously, this is the first video anyone has done on Beatdown Dungeon (well, besides myself). Great to see you enjoying the game. And you're right, there are definitely a few things that need improving. Didn't expect the dungeon backgrounds to be an issue though, I'll make sure to fix that. And yes, there will be more characters. Two more are almost done, but didn't make the cut for the demo.
You're very welcome, I hope you found the data useful.
To be specific with the background issue, what was distracting was when it kept moving even though the forground wasn't. It's something you get used to after awhile but its very jarring at first, so I'm guessing that's why you might not have thought of it.
When you make a game and test it alot you kinda build immunities to things.
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I sure hope my combos remain
Had some blast trying out the game.
I must admit that I've spent more time playing with a custom demon. I'll definitely give all other chars a try too.
The game did never crash or even slow down (i'm playin on a 8 year old laptop with a geforce 525M) , and that is really appreciable for a beta game ! 10/10 for stability !
Characters look cool and ARE UNIQUE ! A blast! Jokes here and there keep the fun atmosphere without getting too bold or smthg. Many things going unnoticed meaning they all run as intended ;)
The only really small things i've run into are about specific stuff in the controls.
1. Sometimes, it seems like if the engine keeps some "ghost" inputs in the buffer. It happens sometimes when there are many quick inputs (attack + some directions or like for instant airdash etc). When the move is finished (and I'm not holding any button anymore) the character is stuck in walking/crouching. As soon as I press a direction button, everything goes back to normal. Does not happen very often.
2. "Forward attack" stuff (fwd+light attack input)
Looking for an opening with the light attack in a footsie situation can lead into having the "forward attack" coming out instead. And the latter is much slower.
Also, during an air combo, as my character lands, I want to make a lil step forward then Light attack (and continue the combo) , or even instant forward jump + light attack to continue with an air juggle combo. But 8/10 times the "forward attack" comes out, as if it had priority over the other inputs.
As the autocombo comes out also with the Light attack button (when mashed), that makes a lot of controls on that light attack button. Could it be possible to change the "forward attack" input ? Like with [fwd]+heavy ? It could still make sense gameplay-wise IMO.
And as I said above, outside of those specific subjects, there are so many things that go unnoticed, meaning they're OK, and that's HUGE !
Like, there are some tiny differences in assist cooldown timing which completely make sense when looking at their respective strengths and usefullness. ex.: the Jelly guy and the rockstar dragon. I'm still not convinced which assist I prefer. Both give combo extension, let you setup mixup situations etc., with some tiny differences in timings-cooldown-etc. And that shows there was a lot of work behind the curtains ! BRAVO !
Music is cool, different soundtracks depending on the dungeons. All of it is cohesive. Sounds effects are ok even they're not AAA. All of the sound stuff runs smoothly for me.
Well that will be enough. Keep it up !!!
Thanks for the feedback! The game was actually developed on a 6 year old laptop, to make sure it runs well on low-end machines xD
The game has a pretty lenient input buffer, but not for directional inputs. You shouldn’t get stuck in walking/crouching, that sounds like a bug. Thanks a lot for pointing this out, I’ll try to fix it!
I will take a closer look at the forward attack, thanks for the notice! I probably won’t change the input this close to the game’s release (could result in a bunch of glitches/infinites) but might change the input priority. Have you tried using crouching light attacks instead? They usually have the same range, but don’t trigger the auto combo.
Glad you’re enjoying the customization features! The idea behind assists, badges and the Custom Demon was to give you flexibility in how you fight, since the game is half-RPG.
Thanks again for playing and the detailed feedback!
Happy to contribute ! I'm really enjoying the game and all the possible combinations.
For the fwd attack stuff, I'm trying to delay my inputs a bit, and it works better. But still there's definitely something with directions stuck in the buffer on the custom demon female character (that's the one I've been testing stuff with).
Anyway, here is a small video with a possible combo with the cust. demon girl.
What I wanted to illustrate :
I love those cr. medium links, still you can easily do an infinite with them as they are now. But I insist on the fact that they allow something interesting. Maybe the pushback on the cr.med could depend on the cust. demon playstyle (walk speed), so you can link only 2 cr. mediums or 3, depending on the playstyle... Like the TANK playstyle can link a bunch of cr.mediums (7 or 8), but not an inifinite.
I'm confident that you'll find the solution for this one too.
Regards from France !
Always makes me happy seeing players discover combos like this. Thanks for the video feedback! I will definitely adjust the cr. Medium, it’s a bit busted xD I will also take another look at the input buffer.
I love the new update! I've only experienced one or two problems thus far.
1) Desperate need for some kind of run button in the dungeons I think. Just to get through the empty spaces better/get around quicker.
2) Speed up in-between dialogue! The text crawl is too slow. Or just resume the text crawl after a battle is finished.
3) Bug? On Level 7 of the noob dungeon the game got crazy fast. It was cool but it played so quickly!
Thanks a lot for trying out the beta! Those are some great suggestions, I'll look into them. Can you remember what triggered the speed-up on level 7? Or did it just randomly happen? Thanks!
It just seemed to randomly happen I'm afraid! I got into a battle, and suddenly I was playing an anime fighter :P
That said it was kinda fun for the 10 seconds I lasted. Maybe look into a speed modifier.
Who knows, maybe I'll turn that into a feature at some point in the future xD
I'll just post'em here in numpad notation
A = Light Attack
B = Medium Attack
C = Heavy Attack
X = Special Attack
Y = Mana Move
Z = Summon
| = Delay
Nitro's Combo (w/ Demon Summon):
"A, 2A x3, B, C, Z, A, 2A x2, B, C, 2D, M"
Aliza Combo (w/ Uppercut Summon):
"A, 2A x2, B, C, 6A, X| 9, a.(A, B, C, Z), A, B, C, 6A, 6X, Y"
"A, 2A x2, B, C, 6A, X, 2Y| 9, a.(A, B, C, X, Z), A, B, C, [as many times as possible] x(6A, 6X), Z"
"7, a.(B, C, X)| 9, a.(A, B, C, Z), A, B, C, 6A, 6X, Y"
That's awesome, thanks for experimenting with the combo system! I am working hard to release a new demo soon, which (besides more content) also makes the combo system a bit more freeform. In the old version you had to go A > B > C for a chain, now you can also go A > C for example.
This game has tons of potential and I already found extremely damaging combos for Alisa and Nitro, I just need a place to post'em
Hi, just tested out stuff in training mode and the game feels good just that Satoshi needs a balance patch, his jumping heavy which goes downwards, has way too much hitstun to where you can constantly do jump forward heavy at midscreen even for an easy infinite. I think his light, medium, heavy, forward special (repeat from light) is a corner infinite but then again I can only do it for 5 reps at most.
-Custom Demon and some other characters have animation bugs where characters are locked into an animation, the most obvious is holding crouch while you do crouching medium, if forward or back is held after the move ends, you will stay stuck in the last frame of the move until you let go, sliding along the ground and able to do some moves without a hitbox appearing. A similar glitch occurs also when you use an air attack and then cancel into a special on the ground instantly, doing the move but still in the air move animation.
-Custom demon ice ball and launcher special create an easy infinite, lauch opponent, do ice ball to catch them in air, then repeat forever, this one is even easier than the Satoshi infinite
Really love what you're doing and will continue to report bugs and inifinites as I see them
Thank you very much for the valuable feedback! I've replied to you on Twitter (you're Kusoge Kris, right?)
Looks cool guys. Will try it once I switch to my PC.
Thanks a lot! Every bit of feedback is valuable, so feel free to offer criticism :)
This game has alot going for it. The demo seems a bit rough round the edges but I can see a cool game in the making.
The animation was probably one of my favorite things, each character having alot of well... character.
Thanks a lot for covering the game! Seriously, this is the first video anyone has done on Beatdown Dungeon (well, besides myself). Great to see you enjoying the game. And you're right, there are definitely a few things that need improving. Didn't expect the dungeon backgrounds to be an issue though, I'll make sure to fix that. And yes, there will be more characters. Two more are almost done, but didn't make the cut for the demo.
You're very welcome, I hope you found the data useful.
To be specific with the background issue, what was distracting was when it kept moving even though the forground wasn't. It's something you get used to after awhile but its very jarring at first, so I'm guessing that's why you might not have thought of it.
When you make a game and test it alot you kinda build immunities to things.